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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:21:40-0700 (MST)
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To: operlist@the-project.org
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From: rayp@primenet.com (Ray Powers)
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Subject: The myths of opers....
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I've always wanted to write something like this.. Its half rant, half
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fact, so bear with it. Hopefully it will be worth reading.
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There's a lot of hate for opers for a lot of reasons. Some are directly
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oper related (i.e. 99% of us are colossal assholes), some are directly
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user related (i.e. 99% of you are raving lunatics), and some is just plain
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misconceptions. I'd like to take a minute to talk about part three in
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hopes of clearing a few things up. This will kind of be in a FAQ form,
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maybe you'll like it, maybe not, but its worth a shot.
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Q: What can an oper on EFnet do.
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A: This is an EXACT list of what we can do:
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1) /squit a server, separating it from the rest of the net
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2) /die our server
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3) /kill a user, this disconnects them from the server they are on
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4) /kline a hostmask, this bans them from our server
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5) /dline an ip, this bans them from our server, regardless of
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hostmask
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6) See all invisible users on our server
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7) Mass Msg/CTCP/notice a hostmask
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8) Mass Msg/CTCP/notice a server
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9) See and send Operwall/wallops notices
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That's it. We can see more server messages than you, but that's not the
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point.. The point to be shown here is very simple, *none* of these things
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have anything to do with channels. Which leads us to our next question.
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Q: What can opers *NOT* do, but keep being asked to anyways?
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A: We can *NOT*:
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1) Enter a channel that is +i or +k without being invited or
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having the key
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2) See who is inside a +s channel
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3) Op ourselves or op you on a channel (unless of course we are a
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channel op for that channel)
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4) Tell you what XXXX's new nick is since they changed it to hide
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from you.
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5) Deop someone for you on a channel (unless of course we are a
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channel op for that channel)
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Notice a trend, with the exception of 4, all of these are 100% channel
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related. EFnet is made so that opers have *NO* power of channels, for
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better or worse. If we don't help you with these requests, its not because
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we won't, its because we are completely incapable doing so. On the other
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hand....
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Q: What can opers do, but won't?
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A: This will be a bit differently done, because I figure I should explain
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why opers don't do these things, when they may normally make sense.
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1) Why won't they kill somebody who has stolen your nick.
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EFnet has gone on the basis of nicks not being owned, which is
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why there is no nickserv on EFnet. Of course we see opers kill
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all the time for nicks, though, so it seems rather hypocrital,
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doesn't it?
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An oper who kills for his nick will tell you its because the
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other person was a bot, was juping his nick, or was imitating an
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oper. It may be true, but it really comes down to the same
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feeling you get when your nick is taken "Hey! that's my name! I
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don't want that person using my name!"
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I personally, do not kill for nicks. If someone takes my nick,
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they can have it. Let them get my several hundred messages a day.
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:P But the problem with the oper is this: How does an oper know
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that you are really the person that uses that nick, or are you
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the guy that wants to nick jupe that nick out from the real guy?
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Unless the oper knows you well, they don't.. And saying that
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people generally tell the truth means you haven't been on EFnet
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very long.
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I would prefer to think I am one of the more well respected
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people on the net and people still lie to me on a regular basis.
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So, the oper is stuck refusing to help because he can't tell who
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is who. Remember this line of reasoning, its going to be coming
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up a lot. :P
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2) Why won't they kill that guy nuking/smurfing/ping -f'ing me?
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This one is simple. There is no way to prove that somebody is
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doing any of these things to you from an opers point of view. All
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logs are fakeable, and the oper has no way to firsthand prove its
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happening. Your best bet in this situation is to log what you can
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and complain loud and long to their ISPs.
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3) Why won't they help me take my channel back?
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There's a bunch of answers to this. First, it is popular
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opinion at EFnet that channels are not owned, and therefore, if
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you lose a channel, you should go make another one. Notice I
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say popular instead of official, because EFnet has never had an
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"official" policy on much of anything.
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But more and more you see opers killing for takeovers, so why
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are they helping their channels and not yours.
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Well, first, let's say your channel was taken over, and is now
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+smtinlk. How exactly is the oper supposed to find out who is
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oped in the channel right now to mass kill them? Even if they do get
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all the nicks, they have to somehow manage to kill them all in
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one hit, or they'll all just op each other again and it will be
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fruitless. Or worse, they could have it all set up, and some
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other oper could kill them halfway through because they don't
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like mass-kills and it would be all ruined.
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Or, let's say the mass-kill goes off, then the channel is
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opless and generally speaking, chaos begins. People start
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mass-nuking or flooding the channel to clear it out, or just to
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be annoying. And there's still a 50/50 chance that takeover
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people will get the channel back on a split and we'll have to try
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to do it all over again.
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If you're about to ask why they don't split their server,
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the answer is very simple: We are not about to screw up roughly
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30,000 peoples chatting for your channel. Its rude. This of
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course is all based on the fact that we can prove its taken over,
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as per the conversation about nicks, we often can't.
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4) But.. its obvious they took it from me! The topic says
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"Ha ha, we took your channel Rick!" for Pete's sake! And
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there's only One op, so you can kill him and get the channel
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back immediately!
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This one is a bit more complex, but its really a personal
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call. That one op could be a rampant smurfpup with a penis so
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tiny he has no choice but to rampantly smurf and synflood anyone
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that gets in his way. This is popularly known on irc as SPS, or
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Small Penis Syndrome. In this case, if the oper does help you
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out, they could end up with their server being downed for a day
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or two, and it really isn't worth it for your channel, no
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offense.
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Keep in mind that this is all spoken from the perspective of someone who
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*DOES* help with channels when possible, but understands greatly the
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reasons not to, and judges each situation very carefully.
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That's the gist of the information I was trying to get across. If you
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were cluefull enough to get on operlist, a lot of this may be common
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knowledge to you, but sometimes its good to step back and see why opers do
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what they do a lot of the time.
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Hoping this is of value to SOMEONE....
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Ray Powers
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Monkster/MimePunk/PrimeMonk/PacMonk/MtgMonk/Ihavefartoomanynickstonickjupe
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