csharplang/meetings/2017/LDM-2017-07-05.md
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# C# Language Design Notes for Jul 5, 2017
## Agenda
Triage of features in the C# 7.2 milestone. They don't all fit: which should be dropped, which should be kept, and which should be pushed out?
1. Static delegates *(8.0)*
2. Native int and IntPtr operators *(7.X)*
3. Field target *(anytime)*
4. Utf8 strings *(8.0)*
5. Slicing *(7.X)*
6. Blittable *(7.2)*
7. Ref structs *(7.2)*
8. Ref readonly *(7.2)*
9. Conditional ref *(7.2)*
10. Ref extensions on structs *(7.2)*
11. Readonly locals and params *(X.X)*
12. ref structs in tuples *(don't)*
13. Overload resolution tie breakers with long tuples *(use underlying generics)*
# Static delegates
Won't have time, and should probably be in a major release.
## Conclusion
8.0 for now.
# Native int and IntPtr operators
This won't make 7.2.
## Conclusion
Let's try to keep in 7 wave as 7.X (in case we have more point releases) . Probably only one of these will become a feature, but keeping both for now until we decide.
# Field target
Bug fix, do this anytime.
## Conclusion
Make sure it is on the Roslyn backlog.
# Utf8 strings
There's a bigger story that needs to be worked out here. There needs to be decisions around interpolated strings, formattable strings etc. This feels low on the list, and we don't have enough data to design it yet.
## Conclusion
Next major release: 8.0.
# Slicing
We would want to add a `Range` type, a syntax `3..5` to create a `Range` and then people can write indexers over ranges to implement slicing.
We could make it an entirely target-typed thing, where something with a proper constructor could be initialized with a span. Lots to think about.
Either way, `Span<T>` APIs would eventually want to make use of this, but would not depend on it from the outset.
## Conclusion
This won't make 7.2 but keeping it 7.X to keep thinking about it.
# Blittable
Small language feature, useful for certain scenarios but not central to 7.2 value proposition.
## Conclusion
Let's do it if we get to it. Keep it 7.2, but low pri for that release.
# Ref structs
Essential to the scenario and also almost done.
Still need `stackalloc` rules worked out. We'd prefer to keep that part of the functionality in, but could delay it if necessary.
## Conclusion
Stay in 7.2.
# Ref readonly
Essential to the scenario and pretty much done.
## Conclusion
Keep in 7.2.
# Conditional ref
Not essential but already done.
## Conclusion
Keep in 7.2.
# Ref extensions on structs
Not essential but already done.
## Conclusion
Keep in 7.2.
# Readonly locals and params
Stands on its own. It has some commonality with 7.2 scenarios, but is not essentially tied. Could be done together with ref readonly locals later. Also it has a lot of design work still to be done.
## Conclusion
Push to X.X.
# ref structs in tuples
Tuples can't contain ref structs because those can't be type arguments.
## Conclusion
That's a big pandora's box to open, and we won't.
# Overload resolution tie breakers with long tuples
There's an esoteric difference between whether "specificity" tie breaker should special case long tuple as a flat list, or should work according to the underlying generics, which are nested.
## Conclusion
We stick with how it works now, which is the underlying generics.